Fireplace Help - Elootos

[nick w]

Hi Everyone,
Im working on redoing my lounge this month and this is the following design:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_28rpI-Fnk6I/S-XZtT...ge%201.jpg

Here is another amazing fireplace:
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o260/.../Fire1.jpg

Now,
Elootos has got a lovely fireplace but i have some questions
Is your fireplace Elootos Gas?
Does it have a flue?


How much are these fireplaces?
Can a flue be installed on nearly any wall, ie it doesnt have to up to the roof?

I want to chuck on here :)
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_28rpI-Fnk6I/S-EpZs...G_0001.JPG



Where is a good place to look for a fireplace

Thanks

[elootos]

(05-10-2010 07:53 PM)nick w Wrote:  Where is a good place to look for a fireplace

Nice sketchup!

My original design just had a hole underneath the TV with candles in and some GU10 spots in the roof, but the wife and I really wanted a fireplace so I spent ages looking for a way to get one and wanted desperately to avoid electric as I'm not keen on their look.

I came across CVO fires that do a whole range of flueless fires that are installable under TVs; their trick is to have a steel recess behind the fire that forces the heat out and away from the TV. In this photo the steel is also powder coated the same colour as the wall.




I went for a DIY option and figured that only the top would get hot so got a 5mm thick steel mantel fabricated to line my recess above the fire. My fire is a flueless model because I don't have a chimney. I could have got a flue installed but they need a minimum rise before heading out the back wall and the rise would have meant mounting the TV much higher. Flueless is better anyway as they are 100% efficient. I think the steel mantel cost me around £120 and I've screwed it in leaving a 5mm airgap behind it so it doesn't actually touch the chimney breast at all. You can kind of just make it out in the photos of my lounge.

Does it work? Well sort of. Because the fire is 100% efficient it wacks out an incredible amount of heat and I can only really run it on low, which isn't as bad as it sounds because after an hour of it being on we have to turn it off because the room gets too hot.

Would I do it again? Yes, but it's something that you don't want to get wrong for obvious reasons!

[nick w]

Thanks very much for the great answer Elootos :)

After a quick call with CVO they answered a few questions i had but also created some.

With your fireplace, you created your own recess, have you got any pictures showing the steel mantel?
Do you notice much heat going up? i only ask as your TV is recessed into the wall how i would like mine

The sales rep was talking about having to purchase the recess (£749) which is nearly as expensive as the standard Angle fireplace

Another option is to purchase an external wall mounted one which sticks out by 150mm and add what he called a "Deflector" which will fit onto the top of the heater to push 90% of the hot air out into the room, but i prefer the recessed look

Thanks

[elootos]

(05-11-2010 12:32 PM)nick w Wrote:  With your fireplace, you created your own recess, have you got any pictures showing the steel mantel?
Do you notice much heat going up? i only ask as your TV is recessed into the wall how i would like mine

The sales rep was talking about having to purchase the recess (£749) which is nearly as expensive as the standard Angle fireplace

Another option is to purchase an external wall mounted one which sticks out by 150mm and add what he called a "Deflector" which will fit onto the top of the heater to push 90% of the hot air out into the room, but i prefer the recessed look

Thanks

I can take some photos of it and post on here later this week for you. I too was a bit bowled over by the price of their steel recess, pricey! TBH you could get it fabricated yourself for about half that price.

I recessed mine but left it projecting by about 30mm which has ended up being a small mistake. I lost the confidence to recess it completely and thought leaving it projecting slightly would be better, but it just means that some heat misses the mantel and rises straight up.

It does warm the TV a bit, but nothing outside of its recommended operating limits. If I were to do it again I would recess the fire completely and allow the steel mantel to do its thing. Mine is an incredible example of a heatsink - it's so bloody hot in the middle you could fry an egg on it but move outside the edge of the fire by a couple of inches and all heat is dissipated leaving it cool to the touch. Although you should definately factor in an airgap, you wouldn't want it in direct contact with anything. I think the other thing that needs to be done to improve the TVs protection is to flush recess it so that heat can't rise up and around it.

My chimney is also make from the more expensive glassboard stuff, about 50 quid a sheet but completely inflammable. That was back when I was concerned about candles etc.


So basically if I were starting again from scratch (which coincidentally the wife and I were only talking about the other week - redoing the lounge completely!), I would flush recess the TV (cos the modern ones don't get that hot), and then recess the fire completely relying on the steel mantel to reflect the heat out with its 45deg angle.